Parent page - The elenchus Skill 1: Find X The first half of the elenchus There’s a whole chapter dedicated to this! Chapter 17: Finding Principles Socrates would be very good at drawing out the underlying thing (e.g., in the dialogue Laches, taking the conversation re: whether the sons should wear armour, into a discussion about courage) Skill 2: Find Y The second half of the elenchus There’s a whole chapter dedicated to this! *Chapter 18: Testing Principles Now you need to find a Y that the other person (or yourself) will also agree with